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  1. Josh Steinberg

    Star Trek 4

    I really think they could have built on that in a big way if the sequel had come out in 2011 and had built on the clean slate, forward moving vision of the ‘09 film.
  2. Josh Steinberg

    Star Trek 4

    Abrams was barely involved in Star Trek Beyond but because this iteration of Trek was launched as a co-pro with Bad Robot, he’ll get screen credit and be asked to give notes regardless of his day to day involvement. I think Abrams’ greatest strength as a creative is reminding people why they...
  3. Josh Steinberg

    Star Trek 4

    Same. Cast isn’t under contract anymore. They resigned 2015/2016 for a two picture deal that included Beyond. California law limits length of enforceable personal services contract to 7 years so as of 2024, everyone has to be resigned. Some of the cast are probably in less demand than in 2016...
  4. Josh Steinberg

    Star Trek 4

    I don’t think there’s a theatrical market for such a film, for better or worse. The budget for a new episode of live action Trek is approximately $8-10 million, putting the season cost at about $80-100 million. The requirements for big screen productions means that the studio would likely...
  5. Josh Steinberg

    Star Trek 4

    And had there not been a pandemic and a resulting change in studio leadership during that period, it probably would have happened.
  6. Josh Steinberg

    Star Trek 4

    A made for steaming film? Absolutely. Made for theatrical? That’s a much more difficult pathway to profitability.
  7. Josh Steinberg

    Star Trek 4

    Chris Pine himself has advocated for more realistic expectations.
  8. Josh Steinberg

    Star Trek 4

    If the studio has the cast under contract for another film, and based on the trade reporting for Star Trek Beyond I think they do, that contract becomes unenforceable at the end of the year. The reason there was a two picture deal for Beyond in the first place was because they took so long...
  9. Josh Steinberg

    Star Trek 4

    I loved it but different strokes etc.
  10. Josh Steinberg

    Star Trek 4

    Ironically Paramount did get a movie out for the 50th (the one time they’ve shown urgency with this series of movies), while CBS was a year late with their show. It’s not like 50th anniversaries happen on a schedule or anything :D
  11. Josh Steinberg

    Star Trek 4

    No surprises there. It’s incredible how badly they’ve mismanaged this. They have a cast. They have a script. They had a director. Just start, already. Times have sure changed from Star Trek: The Motion Picture, which was booked into theaters with an ironclad release date before they had signed...
  12. Josh Steinberg

    Star Trek 4

    If that date holds, that’s a seven year delay between installments. It is amazingly disappointing how badly Paramount mismanaged what was a golden opportunity to establish a big screen franchise that could have done for them what Fast & Furious does for Universal. This doesn’t need to be a...
  13. Josh Steinberg

    Star Trek 4

    It's bad when you release a teaser, and then the film's producer, writer, director and cast members all come out publicly criticizing that teaser almost instantly. It's one thing to have the director say after the movie comes out, "In hindsight, we should have promoted it differently." It's...
  14. Josh Steinberg

    Star Trek 4

    I just don’t see the guy who loves Star Trek making a movie that isn’t satisfying as a Trek movie. ...and thanks to multiple previous Trek projects, most recently Discovery, cursing is canon in the Trek future. I don’t expect Tarantino to drop f bombs just for the sake of it but if a character...
  15. Josh Steinberg

    Star Trek 4

    I think anyone curious about what Tarantino doing Trek would be like should look to Tarantino’s CSI two-parter. It’s a phenomenal episode of CSI because it’s clearly a CSI episode, but within the format of the show, Tarantino is able to use his own style to emphasize the best things about the...
  16. Josh Steinberg

    Star Trek 4

    I think they could actually do another film without Chekov pretty easily. Chekov wasn't even in the first season of the original series, and did not appear in ever single episode even after he did join the cast. Given that the reboot franchise has positioned his character as a genius smarter...
  17. Josh Steinberg

    Star Trek 4

    You know, you'd think so, but I think Chris Hemsworth is an interesting argument to the idea that there are no more movie stars. When Hemsworth plays Thor, at least $100 million worth of people will show up in the opening weekend, and the potential is there to gross a billion dollars. In...
  18. Josh Steinberg

    Star Trek 4

    I do think that overall, Trek is better suited for the small screen. I am intrigued by the possibility of getting a variety of shows that cover different parts of the universe with different styles and formats. But damn, I really have enjoyed the Kelvin movies. I really think that despite...
  19. Josh Steinberg

    Star Trek 4

    Unfortunately, Paramount had to negotiate a new deal for Beyond because their own stalling had invalidated the original three picture deals. And at that point, with Into Darkness building on the critical and commercial success of the ‘09 movie, there was probably no way to get the cast to resign...
  20. Josh Steinberg

    Star Trek 4

    Right. When Paramount was casting to do the first reboot movie, they signed the cast to three picture deals. However, there's a law in California that personal service contracts are only valid for seven years, and because Paramount took so ridiculously long to make Star Trek Into Darkness...
  21. Josh Steinberg

    Star Trek 4

    They were incredibly dumb to not do what Abrams and Bad Robot wanted to do from the start, which was to use the ‘09 movie to reboot the entire franchise as a cross-platform offering that would have included a series of both stand-alone and interconnected films, television and web series. The TV...
  22. Josh Steinberg

    Star Trek 4

    I still think that’s the most likely possibility. But I also think it’s likely that the grosses will be down, and Paramount will not understand that the long stagnation between films is a major factor in that. Right now, it’s three years since the last film. At best, a new one could come out 2...
  23. Josh Steinberg

    Star Trek 4

    After the ‘09 movie came out, Abrams wanted to work on an original project (which was ultimately Super 8) and was not willing to commit to another Trek film. Paramount was willing to wait for Abrams to complete Super 8 in the hopes that he could then be persuaded to direct the next Trek movie...
  24. Josh Steinberg

    Star Trek 4

    Paramount has continued to drag their heels on the theatrical franchise at the expense of box office potential. When they did the ‘09 movie, they brought in a lot of people who never would have considered seeing a Star Trek movie and got them excited about it. As a lifelong Star Trek fan whose...
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