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Tell that to David Lynch and John Hurt. :D

I thought they were terrific. I would love to see another film with this cast picking up where Beyond left off. I realize at this point it’s doubtful.

For others maybe. I’ve avoided all that. Anyway, No worries.

Whoa Sam. Spoilers dude. I didn’t know that.:(

Break even cost on huge tent pole titles like Star Trek are usually 2-3 times their budget with brings us to about $500 million as the BE point. So the film lost considerably more than $40 million. More like $150-200 million.

Other than Chris Pine and maybe Zoe Saldana it doesn’t appear like the cast was crazy busy anyway. They should be happy if this proceeds.

Regarding relevance or success?

I loved all three films. And I gotta admit. It breaks my heart that they weren’t more successful considering some of the films that are. Star Trek is very dear to me. As it is to many of us. It’s ingrained in our beings. We love it. We are defensive of it. We criticize it when it doesn’t meet...

And also the music....Sabotage indeed.

I don’t think that’s a good barometer to measure the relevance or lack thereof of Star Trek. As has been mentioned the first two were moderately successful in the end and there are plenty of new Star Trek shows in development. Would there be if it weren’t still relevant? I don’t think so. As I...

Yeah. That’s what I figured but wasn’t sure.

By the way how did you arrive at this number?

I get what you’re saying Jason. I just don’t agree with your opinions.

And opinions on relevance are subjective of course. Imo, Star Trek has always been relevant and continues to be. Just look at the passion of the posts in this thread.

I disagree.

Yeah I think we all know that as it has been regurgitated repeatedly all over this thread. :huh:

I can similarly post opposite examples. Hence my anecdotal statement.

Considering the last three films alone have grossed close to $1.2 billion worldwide, I would say Star Trek is still very relevant. And that’s not including the numerous new Star Trek series in development. Anecdotal evident as we all know is pretty useless. Pretty much all my nephews and...

Tarantino also wrote the Star Trek analogy used in Crimson Tide. He’s loved Trek for a loooong time.

Yeah. Everyone is just assuming he’s going to make Pulp Trek. Tarantino is better than that.

It was as noted above.

There are similarities between STTMP and the Changeling episode but it was not officially “reworked”.

His character from the first film may be, but he is still starring in the sequel and future films probably. So Pine is very much still a part of the Franchise.

I was going to respond to this but I know ultimately it will be futile. Let’s just agree to disagree on the importance of “imo” or lack thereof and move forward. Back to Trek, I still believe this is a small bump in the road and we will see a Star Trek 4 with this cast in a couple of years...

But at least you’re aware of it. I think. :D

Ha Finally! We’re getting thru. :thumbsup::P

I judge actors on their talents, not their looks. :cool:

I think many here would disagree with that opinion.

But then why even say “IF they wanted more money” when that was never an issue in the first place?:unsure: Interesting indeed. :D

But it didn’t sound like you were aware. You said they wanted more money. Jake and I merely corrected you on that error. I think we’re all aware of all your other points.