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Just curious if Mr. Rebello ever got back to you. :)

The German Turbine release from 2019 is (most likely) correct, though it's taken from the older HD master, which is honestly not that bad. But it's also only available in the big, everything-but-the-kitchen-sink box set that I'm pretty sure is out of print now.

As a matter of fact, he was born in 1949. And he literally wrote the book on this film, and is apparently in the process of writing another.

Well, that is what we've been trying to figure out this whole time. :) Did he happen to know which version played in which theaters in 1960?

I guess it's also true that information wasn't disseminated as quickly as it is now. You couldn't go watch that trailer on YouTube or anything, and even if you had, the actual visceral shock of the shower scene wasn't completely given away (much less the identity of the killer). And Hedda...

Here's a page from the June 25, 1960 issue of The Tablet, a Catholic newspaper in Brooklyn. PSYCHO is listed with the films rated "B."

I found the show I think you're talking about, and although it's certainly possible they would have edited something out of the clip, the scene is cut the way it is in the shorter version of the movie (with just the third stab and fade-out on the fourth). So that's definitely interesting. I was...

Fair enough. :) And like I said, I'm not disagreeing that the longer version was what Hitchcock intended. I'm just saying that from the available evidence and my own understanding of the way post-production was usually handled in the 1960s, I'm still not convinced US theaters got that fully...

I dunno; it did take them three tries to get the right mono track on there. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Thanks, but it looks like that's just in regards to the hard matte in the shower scene. Do you know if there's any info about those three specific cuts we've been discussing?

I'm not sure we're understanding each other here. In the early 1990s, AMC ran its movies unedited and commerical-free. Obviously, in this case, "unedited" meant the "standard" cut of PSYCHO. That's what I saw, and I've seen it many, many times since then on various formats. And what you're...

I'm not going to try to unpack all of that, but I don't doubt that the "uncut" version was Hitchcock's intended cut (at least within the confines of what the PCA would allow). I'm just not convinced it was actually the version that played in US theaters; 60-year-old memories notwithstanding...

Accidental double-post. Sorry.

That certainly could have helped clear things up. :rolleyes: Is that quote from an interview that's available online somewhere?

In this case, I'm content to go with common sense. Hitchcock wasn't that subversive. :) At any rate, on the Turbine release, it's Martin Balsam's scream on both the German and English tracks, even though it sounds like the music is looped differently (there's an extra sting underneath the...

The fade is likely why they picked the last stab. It was probably already baked into the conformed negative. That way they just snip out the first two, and there you go. Sure was trickier when you had to do physical lab work to do a simple dissolve or fade. Sound editing would have been easy...

Sorry; you're really losing me now. I'm willing to accept that you have memories of seeing that footage, even if I think they might be false ones. But I don't buy any of the above for a second. Again, short of someone with a time machine taking me back to the late-60s to watch an actual...

I know, and it's obvious we're not going to convince each other. :) I'm not saying the American Film Institute is infallible, but what else specifically have they been incorrect on?

We've had this discussion before, and I know this probably won't convince anyone any more than it did then, but here is some info from the AFI about the movie: https://catalog.afi.com/Catalog/moviedetails/53260 The relevant paragraph: ------ The Hitchcock papers reveal that the National...