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Thanks for the reply. I haven't even powered on my Pioneer yet...buying speaker wire now and just got a 25' HDMI cable...so shortly I'll be able to test out the new speakers and the Pioneer. The only thing the 3800H had that I wanted (which the Pioneer doesn't have) is Auro3D. Nathan

https://www.zkelectronics.com/compare/denon-avr-x3800h/pioneer-vsx-lx505/

Denon X38000H (refurbished w/ 3 year warranty for $999) vs Pioneer Elite VSX-LX505 (new for $649). Any comments between these 2? I understand the amps are a bit better on the Pioneer. The Auro 3D on the Denon was something I was interested in trying (switching between Atmos and Auro 3D to see...

I'm currently leaning towards the Definitive Technology CS9060 as my center channel. Do you have any comments about that choice? (I may consider the D7s (or greater...D9, D11) as front L/R speakers to go with it). The CS9060 is powered, does that mean I would be able to run outs from the AVR's...

I'm about to buy my first AVR and I thought I'd ask your counsel before making a final decision. I'll be setting up a 7.1(or2).4 Atmos system. I am leaning towards buying used. I don't mind a 9 channel system with 2 extra outs to be powered externally...coupled with a ($100'ish) cheap 2 channel...