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I agree. I'm not fighting you on this. I earlier in the other (review) thread said the M. F. Superman on iTunes looks really good (I was surprised after all the negative reviews!). I'm pushing back on those who say Warners botched this release by over-"scrubbing" it.

I initially was responding to Stephen_J_H saying "but the grain scrubbing seems pretty obvious here. It lacks the appropriate "velvety" look of 3-strip." I think Warners is doing a great job with their 3 strips. But softening (or removing) most of the grain is definitely a part of their...

I agree that "Warner is doing superlative work on their three-strips". That's why I used Elizabeth and Essex as an example. It's beautiful. But grain is pretty much gone without affecting the apparent sharpness. It's sharper than the original dye transfer would have been. I'm not...

Isn't grain scrubbing going on in all of Warner's 3 strip blu ray's? Look at any of the screen grabs of 1939's The Private Lives of Elizabeth and Essex - they all look relatively grain free. Those 3 layers of black and white grain are removed pretty much completely...

He's shooting his TV screen with an iPhone. C'mon.

"I decided the best way to convey just how great these cartoons look is by putting them through the Ultimate Test: How do they look from your living room couch? So dig these amazing 13 IMAGES that were taken on my iPhone (which explains why the framing is slighty off-kilter)." It appears that...

"The raw (pre-cleaned) image from that scan was used to show off clips of the show in "Speeding Towards Tomorrow", revealing wonderfully rich textures that, damage aside, has the appearance of authentic nitrate film grain and looks great. However, most of this grain was scrubbed away during...

I agree. I'm not saying this is great. I'm using ordinary upscaling software. It kind of works because human faces are minimized. But you've seen the Tom Cruise deep fakes haven't you? Things are moving into replacement territory. Tom Cruise Deep Fake This was processed with an online...

All three releases were run through Warner's MPI Facility: Superman, Safe in Hell and A Lion in the Streets. I was pointing out that something seems to be changing in regards to Archive's grain reduction. Perhaps they applied the new grain reduction algorithms to Fleischer's Superman - but...

I think what I'm trying to say is Artificial Intelligence is creeping into the sphere of old movie restoration - like it is in the world of digital imagery. The screenshot above from Safe in Hell of the carriage in front of the church is suspiciously fine grained and sharp for a scan from a...

Is WA leaning a little heavier on the degraining/faux-re-graining button on their latest releases? Did they revamp an existing de-graining program and it hasn't been fine-tuned yet? Some examples look great but suspiciously grain-less or low-grained. This is from "only-known surviving 35mm...

So the term "mastering" is only scanning and recombine and doesn't include dirt and scratch removal - color balancing etc? I'm asking - I don't know:rolleyes:

This is from a current interview of George Feltenstein: "In about an hour, I’m going over to our motion picture imaging facility, which is where we do most of the mastering, to look at a film of ours from the 1920s that’s getting a brand new restoration – so that people can look at this that’s...

Where does MPI end and Warner Archive begin? So MPI must have developed the recombine software. Did they also develop the proprietary retouching software that gets rid of dirt and scratches without (reasonably) affecting the film grain? Is there a constant back and forth between the...

"Warner Bros. Discovery’s advanced remastering process began with a 4K, 16-bit scan of Fleischer’s original 35mm successive exposure negative. Staying true to the original theatrical aspect ratio of 1.37-to-1, the highest quality raw image was then scanned and then entered into the recombine...