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No doubt there are exceptions across all formats. I was talking generally re: how I often find Ultra Stereo mixes to sound to me when decoded to surround vs. a lot of the Dolby mixes from back then. I even made the point that there were very aggressive Dolby matrix mixes at the time, so it...

The 5.1 would be a remix, no? Vincent

Yeah, I was using the DTS-X upmixer on my receiver, but also switched to Dolby instead and like the results better. The end credits for a lot of movies back in the day had a "Dolby Stereo Consultant" listed, and I suspect they were "steering" things during those mixes, so to speak, to keep...

I often find Ultra Stereo mixes to be "more active" than contemporaneous Dolby Stereo mixes. I think Ultra was trying to differentiate itself from Dolby, and Dolby kind of settled into being a more "subtle" format at some point (although there were exceptions and some filmmakers still got...

I'm curious, what was the 6.0 channel layout for HEAVEN'S GATE, and how does the 5.1 track on the various Blu-rays and DVDs handle it? I saw the fabled original NYC 70mm premiere print* of the long-version of HEAVEN'S GATE projected at the Library of Congress' Culpepper, VA campus in the spring...

It's a shame that 4.0 discreet SCARFACE mix hasn't been carried over to home video. The remix adds a bunch of new sound effects, and the "legacy" mix on the UHD (and I assume Blu-ray) is a matrixed 2.0 downmix. Vincent

I know the difference between full-coat mag as a professional format and 4-track mag on prints, but are you sure that there weren't any 35mm mag prints at the time of CLOSE ENCOUNTER's theatrical release? I swear I read that DePalma's SCARFACE had 35mm 4-track mag prints as late as 1982, and...

Were there optical Dolby prints of CLOSE ENCOUNTERS? The tech letter included with the great Criterion Laserdisc set mentions talks about how they arrived at the sound for their LD by encoding the 4-track mag mix through a Dolby encoder. The exact wording from that letter: "A Dolby Surround...

The opening of CLOSE ENCOUNTERS is a terrific example! Some of those classic multichannel sound mixes still stand the test of time. In fact, I think many of them might be *better* than what we get today. I feel like there was more care and artistry put into a lot of those mixes, and these...

This thread is about movie openings, and I stand by my assessment that the opening of SUPERMAN is a terrific example of sound design. Vincent

I *LOVE* the new THE INVISIBLE MAN! Great flippin' movie, and yeah, that entire opening scene is a great sound demo! Vincent

Similar to how the original SUPERMAN opens, with the drawn curtains and the 1.33:1 black & white image, then the camera pans up and into the clouds and the titles "whoosh" over the audience with that stirring John William's music. In fact, I'll go ahead and put the opening scenes of SUPERMAN-...

I believe the DTS Laserdiscs (and AC3 LDs as well) were essentially just direct ports of the "far field" theatrical sound mixes optimized for large theatrical venues, whereas later DVD versions and beyond were possibly "near field" remixes optimized for smaller home theater rooms. Vincent

My motto is, if my neighbors don't like hearing to my home theater sound system, they can move. Vincent

The first 10 minutes or so of BLADE RUNNER 2049 in Dolby Atmos. That's my go-to disc when showing off my home theater sound system. The first 10-15 minutes of Dario Argento's SUSPIRIA in either its original 4.0 surround mix or the Dolby Atmos remix on the Synapse UHD is another really great...