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- Robert Harris
This is an extremely simple few words to impart.
Within the home video reproduction universe, film grain, smoke...
basically anything tiny that obscures the image, must be eradicated.
Take a 1080i transfer, soften it to remove every bit of grain, then sharpen, and out comes a decent looking DVD. In 480i, you'll never see the ringing.
Problem was, that early on in the HD and BD era, these old transfers were reused, and all of a sudden, what might have passed muster for a DVD, was no longer getting rave reviews.
Blu-ray was able to replicate film grain to a reasonable extent, and newer transfers, and then image data harvests were able to create some superb BDs.
But true grain, fog, dust storms, and flying sand, were still the enemy.
Columbia's new 4k UHD/HDR of CE3K is the perfect case in point, for multiple reasons.
You're going to need a copy to try this experiment, so please get one, and I'll wait.
Got it? Disc in hand?
Alright.
First place the BD disc in your 4k player. It will be automatically up-rezzed.
What you'll see is that the main title, which has horizontal lines through the letters, is reasonably intact, but with a some bleeding, and conjoined lines.
Get into the first sequence, and you're in a sandstorm.
Not only that, but the stock had real grain.
So what you have are multiple enemies of Blu-ray, together again for the first time.
Grain and fast moving sand, spell problems. Even with good data throughput, the BD can't keep up.
Let's extract that Blu-ray now, place it back in the case, and load the 4k disc.
And this is where our little experiment gets really simple.
First thing you'll note, is that the horizontal lines in the main title are all crisp, clean and clear, with zero confluence of lines.
Enter the desert sequence, and unlike the Blu-ray, the 4k has absolute control, with sand differentiated from film grain.
Colors are cleaner. Blacks are better. Images are far more highly resolved across the board.
Probably the best test of a Blu-ray vs. 4k from the same base master available.
CE3K in 4k is a magnificently produced disc.
Audio is still 5.1, but it's terrific and huge.
Three versions on a single disc.
$21 at Amazon.
I'll be receiving a list of those who do not purchase.
Image - 5
Audio - 5 (DTS-HD MA 5.1)
4k - 5
Pass / Fail - Pass
Very Highly Recommended
RAH
Within the home video reproduction universe, film grain, smoke...
basically anything tiny that obscures the image, must be eradicated.
Take a 1080i transfer, soften it to remove every bit of grain, then sharpen, and out comes a decent looking DVD. In 480i, you'll never see the ringing.
Problem was, that early on in the HD and BD era, these old transfers were reused, and all of a sudden, what might have passed muster for a DVD, was no longer getting rave reviews.
Blu-ray was able to replicate film grain to a reasonable extent, and newer transfers, and then image data harvests were able to create some superb BDs.
But true grain, fog, dust storms, and flying sand, were still the enemy.
Columbia's new 4k UHD/HDR of CE3K is the perfect case in point, for multiple reasons.
You're going to need a copy to try this experiment, so please get one, and I'll wait.
Got it? Disc in hand?
Alright.
First place the BD disc in your 4k player. It will be automatically up-rezzed.
What you'll see is that the main title, which has horizontal lines through the letters, is reasonably intact, but with a some bleeding, and conjoined lines.
Get into the first sequence, and you're in a sandstorm.
Not only that, but the stock had real grain.
So what you have are multiple enemies of Blu-ray, together again for the first time.
Grain and fast moving sand, spell problems. Even with good data throughput, the BD can't keep up.
Let's extract that Blu-ray now, place it back in the case, and load the 4k disc.
And this is where our little experiment gets really simple.
First thing you'll note, is that the horizontal lines in the main title are all crisp, clean and clear, with zero confluence of lines.
Enter the desert sequence, and unlike the Blu-ray, the 4k has absolute control, with sand differentiated from film grain.
Colors are cleaner. Blacks are better. Images are far more highly resolved across the board.
Probably the best test of a Blu-ray vs. 4k from the same base master available.
CE3K in 4k is a magnificently produced disc.
Audio is still 5.1, but it's terrific and huge.
Three versions on a single disc.
$21 at Amazon.
I'll be receiving a list of those who do not purchase.
Image - 5
Audio - 5 (DTS-HD MA 5.1)
4k - 5
Pass / Fail - Pass
Very Highly Recommended
RAH