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Thank you for your review. I have the 2015 UK Blu-ray that I'm very happy with so I don't see the need to buy the TT Blu-ray too. It also has a different audio commentary by Adrian Martin that I have not listen to yet, so I'll do that with my next viewing of this movie. I still have the DVD disc with Richard Schickel's commentary and I agree with you that most of his commentaries are not very good.
 

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I too have the U. K. disc and see no reason to double-dip. I enjoy this film a lot.
 
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Thank you for your review. I have the 2015 UK Blu-ray that I'm very happy with so I don't see the need to buy the TT Blu-ray too. It also has a different audio commentary by Adrian Martin that I have not listen to yet, so I'll do that with my next viewing of this movie. I still have the DVD disc with Richard Schickel's commentary and I agree with you that most of his commentaries are not very good.
I've never heard the Adrian Martin commentary, but even unheard, I'd be willing to bet it's superior to Schickel's effort. He really didn't put forth much on most of his tracks. Seems like there were one or two I heard years ago that weren't abysmal, but they usually don't have ANY information in them that the ordinary movie fan wouldn't already know.
 

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I just finished it. Nothing about what I watched would lead me to believe this is a new transfer. Some of it is fine, some less than fine and some downright odd fluctuations in the image.
 

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Much higher bitrate on the TT. I haven’t had time to compare them yet but scanning it thought the TT had slightly higher grain management, and slightly finer shadow detail. The originals were done by Schawn Belston’s team at Fox, ditto Angel Face and Where the Sidewalk Ends. All three BFI discs looked great but I frankly always see a slight increase in PQ when you uprez a very high bitrate encoded AVC to 4k.

Another Fox topic OT, anyone have opinions about the new Criterion Cluny Brown?
 
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Much higher bitrate on the TT. I haven’t had time to compare them yet but scanning it thought the TT had slightly higher grain management, and slightly finer shadow detail. The originals were done by Schawn Belston’s team at Fox, ditto Angel Face and Where the Sidewalk Ends. All three BFI discs looked great but I frankly always see a slight increase in PQ when you uprez a very high bitrate encoded AVC to 4k.

Another Fox topic OT, anyone have opinions about the new Criterion Cluny Brown?
Perhaps, it's best to ask that question in the Cluny Brown thread.

As to the slight increase in PQ for Whirlpool, it's not enough difference for me to spend another $29.95 to find out by purchasing the TT disc, especially, if I'm happy with the BFI disc and this isn't exactly one of my favorite movies.
 

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Much higher bitrate on the TT. I haven’t had time to compare them yet but scanning it thought the TT had slightly higher grain management, and slightly finer shadow detail. The originals were done by Schawn Belston’s team at Fox, ditto Angel Face and Where the Sidewalk Ends. All three BFI discs looked great but I frankly always see a slight increase in PQ when you uprez a very high bitrate encoded AVC to 4k.

Another Fox topic OT, anyone have opinions about the new Criterion Cluny Brown?

My only point was this is NOT a new transfer, it's probably what was used for the DVD.
 
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I watched the Twilight Time disc the other day (yes, it can take me a while to get around to some parts of my collection). And I noticed something VERY strange going on with the image. I can't say I've ever noticed this before...

In some scenes, notably the scene in which Tierney is being interviewed at the police station, the image moves around in the frame in a way that corresponds with the actor's face! It's almost certainly something not natural, I can only surmise that some kind of image stabilization was used during restoration that didn't entirely "pin" the image to a stable element within. (Rudimentary image stablization takes a shaky image, "pins" two or three high contrast points that aren't supposed to move, like the corner of a picture frame or a dark spot on a wall, and adjust frame by frame until the whole scene is solid.)

If you watch that scene, when Tierney nods, the entire image moves up and down with her face. You might not notice it so easily if you're looking at her face, but watch the background instead - focus on something on the wall behind her, for example. (Going back to my stabilzation example above, it would be as if the "pins" are on her eyes rather than something that's fixed, so the image moves with her eyes. Although I can see it's not quite as simple as that.)

There are a few other times this happens during the movie, this was just one scene for which it was particularly noticeable. If you have this disc, pop it in and have a look to confirm I'm not going slightly crazy...
 

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