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I have been recording METV for some time now, and finally I can give you the overall results. To compare, anything I have seen on that station, has looked very good that obviously was on HD, and, of course, it may say it's 1080p or 720p, but still actually be 480p, or worse. As good as it looked though, I have to conclude it's my tv that is mostly making it look good, which is a 4k (really 2k) X900E made by Sony. I never knew what the alleged upgrading could do, but now I suppose I know.

I reach this conclusion because it's not holding up on my Viewsonic 1080p monitor at all, where I'm taking out snapshots. Now I know good and well NOTHING I get on the x900e is truly 2160p, because I don't have upgraded cables, etc, but it is a better 1080p than my former plasma, and probably than the monitor as well. What thing I noticed rather steadily towards the last few months, how many programs I was recording, that were allegedly coming in as 1080p, and they weren't.

Every single file I have played from that, obviously don't look 1080p. Not that I haven't definitely had 1080p on this monitor, and that's a lot better than these recordings. As well, if you look at the properties of each file, they show as 720p. What really irritates me about this though, is that the programs you are getting are inconsistent. For example, I've played a lot of Happy Days videos in a row, and they're one of the better looking programs on that alleged 720p, still not really 720p in my view, maybe 600p. Anyway, every once in a while you'll have an episode that goes totally to hell, and looks 480p at best.

Perhaps the oddest thing of all, is that Hogan's Heroes look SOOOO damn good on my X900E, but put that recording on and Hogan never looks much good. It's so bad in comparison, that I've just taken to deleting all of them sight unseen. I also have a 144hz monitor over here, so that's definitely aiding me in the quality (I'm not sure what HZ the X900E uses). The 144hz, makes a very large difference, as I've done a before and after, with the same film on it before, but as new as that is to me, Hogan, for example, is still a shambles. To me, to describe these as a shambles, it would have to look worse than what I would expect a Hogan dvd would look (I'm pretty sure I have one). I've also recorded Gomer Pyle quite a bit, and I think for the most part, it is an improvement over dvd, but probably still not 720p, and it also had the problem of a few episodes looking garbage. And yes, Gomer looks super on that X900E.

Here very recently I have seen a lot that once claimed 1080p, are now going back to 720p. Also, METV over here, has had a history of the same show being 720p one day, 1080p the next, and then back to 720p again. They're definitely inconsistent.

Okay, I just made a quick glance over the net. The X900E is rated for 120hz, so my monitor outdoes it in that department.
 
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maybe it's time for tv land and fetv to try again.it will be a cinderella story.come true
 

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I have been recording METV for some time now, and finally I can give you the overall results. To compare, anything I have seen on that station, has looked very good that obviously was on HD, and, of course, it may say it's 1080p or 720p, but still actually be 480p, or worse. As good as it looked though, I have to conclude it's my tv that is mostly making it look good, which is a 4k (really 2k) X900E made by Sony. I never knew what the alleged upgrading could do, but now I suppose I know.

I reach this conclusion because it's not holding up on my Viewsonic 1080p monitor at all, where I'm taking out snapshots. Now I know good and well NOTHING I get on the x900e is truly 2160p, because I don't have upgraded cables, etc, but it is a better 1080p than my former plasma, and probably than the monitor as well. What thing I noticed rather steadily towards the last few months, how many programs I was recording, that were allegedly coming in as 1080p, and they weren't.

Every single file I have played from that, obviously don't look 1080p. Not that I haven't definitely had 1080p on this monitor, and that's a lot better than these recordings. As well, if you look at the properties of each file, they show as 720p. What really irritates me about this though, is that the programs you are getting are inconsistent. For example, I've played a lot of Happy Days videos in a row, and they're one of the better looking programs on that alleged 720p, still not really 720p in my view, maybe 600p. Anyway, every once in a while you'll have an episode that goes totally to hell, and looks 480p at best.

Perhaps the oddest thing of all, is that Hogan's Heroes look SOOOO damn good on my X900E, but put that recording on and Hogan never looks much good. It's so bad in comparison, that I've just taken to deleting all of them sight unseen. I also have a 144hz monitor over here, so that's definitely aiding me in the quality (I'm not sure what HZ the X900E uses). The 144hz, makes a very large difference, as I've done a before and after, with the same film on it before, but as new as that is to me, Hogan, for example, is still a shambles. To me, to describe these as a shambles, it would have to look worse than what I would expect a Hogan dvd would look (I'm pretty sure I have one). I've also recorded Gomer Pyle quite a bit, and I think for the most part, it is an improvement over dvd, but probably still not 720p, and it also had the problem of a few episodes looking garbage. And yes, Gomer looks super on that X900E.

Here very recently I have seen a lot that once claimed 1080p, are now going back to 720p. Also, METV over here, has had a history of the same show being 720p one day, 1080p the next, and then back to 720p again. They're definitely inconsistent.

Okay, I just made a quick glance over the net. The X900E is rated for 120hz, so my monitor outdoes it in that department.
How are you recording?

Is it possible that the recording method itself is the problem?
 

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As part of the channel launch, animation historian Jerry Beck (whose books include “The 50 Greatest Cartoons,” “The Hanna-Barbera Treasury” and “Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies: A Complete Illustrated Guide to Warner Bros. Cartoons”) will help produce original content related to the MeTV Toons library. Also, character actor Bob Bergen — who has voiced Porky Pig, Marvin the Martian and more, will serve as the signature voice announcer for MeTV Toons.

MeTV Toons will be available for distribution on over-the-air broadcast television, traditional and virtual operators, along with a complimentary offering for ad-supported streaming services. Besides MeTV and MeTV Toons, other Weigel networks include Heroes & Icons, Start TV, Catchy Comedy, Movies!, Story Television, Dabl and MeTV+.

 
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Just saw this myself, popped up on my feed. What a great idea, and if done properly could be a dream com true. Not to take away from CN, but here you have the opertunity, to expand beyond WB and its associated titles. Fleisher/Paramount have been restoring the original cartoons, METV have premiered a few, cant wait to see more, Total Television, Jay Ward Productions, Harvey Films, UPA, and dare I say it ... Terrytoons. Would all be welcomed surprises.
 

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As part of the channel launch, animation historian Jerry Beck (whose books include “The 50 Greatest Cartoons,” “The Hanna-Barbera Treasury” and “Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies: A Complete Illustrated Guide to Warner Bros. Cartoons”) will help produce original content related to the MeTV Toons library. Also, character actor Bob Bergen — who has voiced Porky Pig, Marvin the Martian and more, will serve as the signature voice announcer for MeTV Toons.

MeTV Toons will be available for distribution on over-the-air broadcast television, traditional and virtual operators, along with a complimentary offering for ad-supported streaming services. Besides MeTV and MeTV Toons, other Weigel networks include Heroes & Icons, Start TV, Catchy Comedy, Movies!, Story Television, Dabl and MeTV+.


That is phenomenal news!!! Everything Boomerang used to be, and maybe more! Hope my provider will carry it.
 

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Hi all,

While this news is potentially exciting,
I’m sure ME TV will time compress these cartoons like their other programs, making Bugs Bunny sound more like Alvin.

John
 

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Hi all,

While this news is potentially exciting,
I’m sure ME TV will time compress these cartoons like their other programs, making Bugs Bunny sound more like Alvin.

John
I can only speak for what I've seen on MeTV+ It does not appear as they time compress the cartoons on that channel. Three 7 seven minute cartoons (21 minutes) gives plenty of time for commercials. At last check, they are not the "restored" WB cartoons though.
 

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Just saw this myself, popped up on my feed. What a great idea, and if done properly could be a dream com true. Not to take away from CN, but here you have the opertunity, to expand beyond WB and its associated titles. Fleisher/Paramount have been restoring the original cartoons, METV have premiered a few, cant wait to see more, Total Television, Jay Ward Productions, Harvey Films, UPA, and dare I say it ... Terrytoons. Would all be welcomed surprises.
The announcement says: "Alongside Warner Bros. properties, other cartoon characters joining MeTV Toons include Rocky and Bullwinkle, Woody Woodpecker, Casper, Betty Boop, Speed Racer and more."
 

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The announcement says: "Alongside Warner Bros. properties, other cartoon characters joining MeTV Toons include Rocky and Bullwinkle, Woody Woodpecker, Casper, Betty Boop, Speed Racer and more."
you know that we are saying the same thing in different formats, (Bullwinkle= Jay Ward Productions)( Betty Boop= Fleisher), what i am hoping is an expanded selection UPA= Mago, TTV= Underdog and Tennessee Tuxedo, Harvey=Casper, and so much more that that one character, but Paul Terry needs some air time as well.

as for Speed, think they have access to all of the Sandy Frank (Americanized) versions. haven't seen G-Force (Battle of the Planets) in a long time.
 

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I can only speak for what I've seen on MeTV+ It does not appear as they time compress the cartoons on that channel. Three 7 seven minute cartoons (21 minutes) gives plenty of time for commercials. At last check, they are not the "restored" WB cartoons though.

B-ROLL,

I hope you’re right, but still it wouldn’t surprise me to see these eventually get time sped.
It’s all about making money and Me-TV+ isn’t here as much to entertain us, as it’s real goal is to make money with commercial sales.

John
 

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you know that we are saying the same thing in different formats, (Bullwinkle= Jay Ward Productions)( Betty Boop= Fleisher), what i am hoping is an expanded selection UPA= Mago, TTV= Underdog and Tennessee Tuxedo, Harvey=Casper, and so much more that that one character, but Paul Terry needs some air time as well.

as for Speed, think they have access to all of the Sandy Frank (Americanized) versions. haven't seen G-Force (Battle of the Planets) in a long time.
Their initial lineup doesn’t suggest much focus on action series, but it would be great if they ran Battle of the Planets. It’s been forever since I’ve seen it on TV. Although, I have more recently watched it in its original version (Gatchaman), and that leaves me torn between the two. Love BOTP to hear the fantastic Hoyt Curtin score and the voice work of Casey Kasem and Alan Young, but on the other hand there’s a number of action and dramatic beats that are edited out of BOTP, and make the Gatchaman episodes more engaging storywise.
 

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