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The often-delayed sequel Wonder Woman 1984 arrives on 4K UHD Blu-ray after its brief HBOMax and theatrical run, with director Patty Jenkins and star Gal Gadot returning.



Wonder Woman 1984 (2020)



Released: 25 Dec 2020
Rated: PG-13
Runtime: 151 min




Director: Patty Jenkins
Genre: Action, Adventure, Fantasy



Cast: Gal Gadot, Chris Pine, Kristen Wiig, Pedro Pascal
Writer(s): Patty Jenkins (story by), Geoff Johns (story by), Patty Jenkins (screenplay by), Geoff Johns (screenplay by), Dave Callaham (screenplay by), William Moulton Marston (based on characters from DC Wonder Woman created by)



Plot: Diana must contend with a work colleague and businessman, whose desire for extreme wealth sends the world down a path of destruction, after an ancient artifact that grants wishes goes missing.



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I also really enjoyed the 2017 Wonder Woman so I purchased it on 4K blu-ray. But after seeing Wonder Woman 1984 on HBO Max and being really disappointed in it I will not be adding it to my collection! I disliked it to the point that I will not even give it a second viewing. The 4K transfer looks great and sounds good but the story line and how Wonder Woman is portrayed is just horrible.
 

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My the DC world is one flop after the other (unlike Marvel's) yet these fiascos keep getting bankrolled.

Having said that my 3D version arrived yesterday from Amazon as I'm in for anything released in 3D.
And it's also released in Atmos.
 

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To be fair, the first Wonder Woman was (outside of The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Returns) DC's most successful film, and was critically well received. It's no, um, "wonder" that a sequel got the green light and was bankrolled. It's just a shame that the second movie was so bad. Consistency is NOT DC's area of expertise.
 
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I felt the same way about Gadot when her casting was announced, but she completely vindicated herself in the role. She's perfect as WW IMO, even though I thought the tone of the character in WW84 was off-kilter.
 

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To be fair, the first Wonder Woman was (outside of The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Returns) DC's most successful film...
Only by looking at the domestic gross. Aquaman is by far DC's biggest film worldwide (nearly $1.15 Billion), followed by Batman vs. Superman ($874 million), then Wonder Woman ($821 million) and Suicide Squad ($746 million).
 

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Consistency is NOT DC's area of expertise.
I disagree. The individual character films are progressively worse.

Man of Steel -> Batman v Superman -> Justice League (Theatrical)

Batman v Superman -> Suicide Squad -> Justice League (Theatrical)

Wonder Woman -> Wonder Woman 1984

We'll have to wait and see with The Suicide Squad and Aquaman 2.
 

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I felt the same way about Gadot when her casting was announced, but she completely vindicated herself in the role. She's perfect as WW IMO, even though I thought the tone of the character in WW84 was off-kilter.
She did great in this one. I thought some of the small moments in the film gave me more empathy, and love for the character than all of her scenes in the entire first film combined.
 

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I disagree. The individual character films are progressively worse.

Man of Steel -> Batman v Superman -> Justice League (Theatrical)

Batman v Superman -> Suicide Squad -> Justice League (Theatrical)

Wonder Woman -> Wonder Woman 1984

We'll have to wait and see with The Suicide Squad and Aquaman 2.
I think Aquaman 2 will have lot to live up to. I think the first film was simply perfect.
 

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Citizen Kane is perfect. So is 2001, And Lawrence of Arabia.
Aquaman really ??
It shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath.
 

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Citizen Kane is perfect. So is 2001, And Lawrence of Arabia.
Aquaman really ??
It shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath.
I don't want to put words in Bryan's mouth but I took it to mean that he sees Aquaman as a perfect piece of entertainment. I love Star Wars or Halloween or a ton of movies far more than 2001 but I know 2001 is a better movie.
 

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This was a movie that I enjoyed, but could very easily understand why others didn't. And even though I enjoyed it, there are quite a few flaws I took issue with.

I think the main one is trying to shoehorn in as much humor as possible, especially in the front half of the film. It's like DC saw the success of Thor: Ragnarok and the subsequent humor of "Fat Thor" in Endgame, and said "ah ha, that's what we've been missing, humor!" There is well documented testimony that the "amp up the humor" notes were being passed to Snyder, and subsequently to Whedon, on Justice League...and we all know how that went.

The tale of the monkey's paw, and the temptation to obtain your deepest desire at a most precious personal cost, is a powerful one and should be sufficient to carry a film without trying to input as many gags as one can fit. Let the humor come naturally. There's built-in "man out of time" humor to exploit as well, no need to try and cram extraneous humor (which didn't come across all that funny) into it. The monkey's paw, lost love regained, are all strong story points and should have been front and center the entire time, with sparse but well timed bits of levity sprinkled throughout.

I remember my first Max viewing, feeling conflicted after I watched it, because there's such a dissonance between the forced comedy and the more serious aspects of the film, I wasn't sure how I'd feel watching it a second time (and owning it on disc). I was pleasantly surprised to find that I enjoyed it more on the second viewing now that I knew what I was in store for. I wouldn't say it's a great film. Maybe not even a good film, if you are judging it on its storytelling merits, but it was enjoyable enough that I sat through another 151 minutes and didn't regret it. My grading of the movie would be a 3/5.

I will say that despite having a pretty robust internet connection, I did find the 4K UHD presentation to be superior to what I recall from the Max streaming version. The Max version was fine most of the time but it really did struggle in the dark scenes, especially during WW and Cheetah's fight (not quite on par with the infamous GoT dark issue on one of their last episodes, but it didn't look good). I vividly recall watching that scene and thinking "I have to take this all in and remember how mediocre it looks for when I eventually get the disc version" and sure enough, the disc does that scene justice (the whole movie, in fact). And the audio was on-point. So my A/V scores would mirror Todd's 5 and 5.

Just my opinions.
 

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I thought Gal Gadot was ok as WW, she has charm. But who could measure up to Lynda Carter. Same with Superman, everyone is in the shadow of Chris Reeve.
Bingo- they are iconic. And OK just doesn’t cut it. Only Michelle Pfeiffer was able to really notch out a truly memorable DC performance as Catwoman and appearing in only one film. The other DC actors are either ok, laughably bad, or just boring.
 

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Bingo- they are iconic. And OK just doesn’t cut it. Only Michelle Pfeiffer was able to really notch out a truly memorable DC performance as Catwoman and appearing in only one film. The other DC actors are either ok, laughably bad, or just boring.
You mean Danny DeVito as The Penguin, didn't float your boat?;)
 

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