Best Sound From 4K Blu-Ray Player To AV-Reciever? (1 Viewer)

[DarthTangYang]

Hello!
I recently purchased a 4K Blu-Ray Player (Panasonic DP-UB450) and I am currently running both Audio and video via HDMI to my TV. From there on I run the sound from my TV to my AV-Reciever (Denon AVR-2106) via an optical cable.

However, I was wondering if there's anything to gain from running the audio straight from the Blu-Ray Player to the AV-Reciever instead? If so there's the problem of my AV-Reciever not having any HDMI ports. So in that case I would need to somehow convert from HDMI to Coaxial or optical if that's preferred.

Any help here is very much welcome.

 

[JohnRice]

Without hdmi inputs on your receiver, it's not possible to get the best audio. The best option with the gear you have is to run the coaxial digital output from the player directly to the receiver.

 

[Wayne A. Pflughaupt]

Marcus,

From what I understand, your connection scheme (with the TV in between the blu-ray player and AVR) removes the 5.1 encoding. You end up with a two-channel (stereo) signal, from which is derived old-school, matrixed analog Dolby Pro-Logic surround sound.

Likewise, HDMI converters also strip the 5.1 processing and leave you with DPL.

As John noted, the best way to get Dolby Digital et al. audio from your current set up is to connect the blu-ray player directly to the AVR via the coax connection.

Regards,
Wayne A. Pflughaupt

 

[DarthTangYang]

Without hdmi inputs on your receiver, it's not possible to get the best audio. The best option with the gear you have is to run the coaxial digital output from the player directly to the receiver.

Ok, so that single Coaxial output at the back of the Blu-Ray Player is the best option? I would never have guessed that. Thanks!

 

[JohnRice]

Ok, so that single Coaxial output at the back of the Blu-Ray Player is the best option? I would never have guessed that. Thanks!

Yes. With your current receiver it definitely is. It will give you up to DD/DTS 5.1, where as Wayne explained, routing through the TV will most likely yield at best DD 2.0. If you get a new receiver, then you want to route hdmi through it, then to the TV.

 

[DarthTangYang]

If you get a new receiver, then you want to route hdmi through it, then to the TV.

Ok, so do you mean that I should route the video as well through the reciever in such a scenario?

 

[Scott Merryfield]

Ok, so do you mean that I should route the video as well through the reciever in such a scenario?

Yes, as long as the new receiver is capable of passing through 4K video -- including the two HDR formats (HDR10 and Dolby Vision). Any newer model should support this, but if you buy an older receiver used, then it could be an issue.

 

[DarthTangYang]

As John noted, the best way to get Dolby Digital et al. audio from your current set up is to connect the blu-ray player directly to the AVR via the coax connection.

Ok, so are there any differences in quality or function when it comes to coaxial cables (i.e. different types) or would any Coaxial cable do?

 

[JohnRice]

Ok, so are there any differences in quality or function when it comes to coaxial cables (i.e. different types) or would any Coaxial cable do?

Not really, but people get weird about cables. Most of it is voodoo. Any decent RCA cable will be fine. Not dirt cheap, but not expensive either. To make things easy, a subwoofer cable from Monoprice is a good way to go.

See on Amazon

 

[DarthTangYang]

Not really, but people get weird about cables. Most of it is voodoo. Any decent RCA cable will be fine. Not dirt cheap, but not expensive either. To make things easy, a subwoofer cable from Monoprice is a good way to go.

See on Amazon

Well, I am located in Sweden so I won't be ordering from Monoprice. However, what about this one from Amazon? It costs $10 for 3 feet. Is that considered dirt cheap?

 

[JohnRice]

Well, I am located in Sweden so I won't be ordering from Monoprice. However, what about this one from Amazon? It costs $10 for 3 feet. Is that considered dirt cheap?

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Amazon sells Monoprice cables here in the USA, which is what I linked. I don't know if you meant Amazon US, or Sweden, but I'd look if it's Sweden. That cable you included an image of looks fine, but the one I linked has much better connectors at the same price or less.

 

[DarthTangYang]

Amazon sells Monoprice cables here in the USA, which is what I linked. I don't know if you meant Amazon US, or Sweden, but I'd look if it's Sweden. That cable you included an image of looks fine, but the one I linked has much better connectors at the same price or less.

The link you posted is broken, at least at my end so I can't open it.

 

[JohnRice]

Try THIS.

 

[DarthTangYang]

Try THIS.

Ok, well that's way too long for my needs. About 2-3 feet would be more than enough.

 

[JohnRice]

Ok, well that's way too long for my needs. About 2-3 feet would be more than enough.

Dude, there are options for 3, 6, 12, 25 and 50ft.

 

[DarthTangYang]

Dude, there are options for 3, 6, 12, 25 and 50ft.

Well, no, not the one you sent a link to. It's 25 feet long and there are no options for shorter lengths. At least not on the Swedish site.

 

[DarthTangYang]

Dude, there are options for 3, 6, 12, 25 and 50ft.

But I ordered this one instead.

 

[JohnRice]

That looks good.

 

[JohnRice]

Sorry about the confusion on the links.

 

[Scott Merryfield]

Ok, so are there any differences in quality or function when it comes to coaxial cables (i.e. different types) or would any Coaxial cable do?

If you have an old composite video cable lying around, it would work fine.