george kaplan
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Thanks for the info.
With a $25 per ticket price at least in New York. Its expensive when they only run one or two shows a day.Yet, surprisingly, that price isn't out of line (especially since you get a souvenir program with it.)
I say that because, for instance, when "The Sound of Music" played the Rivoli in New York City in 1965 and 1966, the top ticket price was $3.75, which is about the equivalent of $23 today (and you paid another buck for the souvenir program.)
"Dreamgirls" is a bargain compared to "Cleopatra" at the Rivoli in 1963 and 1964. Its top price was $5.50, the equivalent of $34 today!
As far as I know, the DELUXE edition of the album (the version with the bound-in booklet) was released in mono only, at least in the U.S. Reference books I've seen show the standard edition (without the booklet) being released in mono and stereo at the same time (March 1958).
The U.K. had an edition with a booklet that looks similar to the U.S. deluxe edition. I have it in mono as catalog number RB-16065. It's possible this version came out in stereo, but I can't verify that.
This was only RCA Victor's second true stereo U.S. soundtrack album. The first was RAINTREE COUNTY the month before (February 1958), and its release followed a similar pattern--the deluxe edition (in this case, a 2-LP set) was released in mono only, and the standard one-disc version was released in mono and stereo, all three editions being released at the same time.
Did the deluxe edition of "South Pacific" have music not featured on the standard edition?
Well, since the information found there is contributed by the visitors, submit a correction.
There really is no "they" on websites like Wikipedia and the IMDB. Anyone can say anything they want, really, and the information is incredibly unreliable.
For example:
Back in the "old days," movies didn't open everywhere at once as they tend to now, and trusting the IMDB's release dates would be a major mistake. Except for the biggest movies which had major premieres in New York or L.A., it's almost impossible to get an accurate release date for movies prior to 1980 or so.
But that didn't stop someone from trying. Apparently, this person sat down with an old Film Daily yearbook which lists thousands of movies and assigns dates to them, the dates clearly being (because it says so!) the date of the issue of Film Daily in which the movie was reviewed. Someone took those dates and entered them on the IMDB as the dates the movies actually opened. This could be wrong by as much as several months!
There's no way I'm going to go through thousands of entries and remove those incorrect dates, so they'll probably sit there until the end of the Internet as we know it.
Supposedly the giant rock island of Es Vedra (off the coast of Ibiza) stood in for Bali Hai. It looks like it could've been.
To clear up a few South Pacific things -
when the film was cut, it wasnot just chopped up but the parts that were cut were also redubbed to smooth out the cut.
One scene, Joe cable singing Bali Hai on his way to the island, was cut and replaced with new footage of Joe on the boat while the chorus alone sings the song.
However, it seems the release of the restored version is a year from this November, so we have a lot of waiting to do.
Anyway, the restoration of south Pacific to full length has been an pbsession with me. When I was allowed in 1990 to go through the holdings of South Pacific in storage at goldwyn, some fun things were found. - scnes cut from the preview print, the underscore by Alfred Newman, a song - Loneliness of Evening recorded but not used in the film, the audio tests for possible dubbers for John Kerr including John Kerrs own voice. There is also the alternate opening reel for the foreign prints that resotre the film to its Broadway continuity.
What I did not find is the missing sections of Gonna wash That Man right OUghta My Hair - and don't expect to see them in the restored print. These scens never even made it to the first preview print. Oscar Hammerstein was onlocation with the Fox crew and he took a disliek to the number. the number was then cut to the bone.
A couple of months ago, there was a 70mm film festival in the north of England. Part of the festival was a print of south Pacific. Several friends of mine were there and the next day I was bombarded with emails from them saying the uncut version was ran.
I then called a gentleman in California who sometimes acts as a go between for collectors and studios. The print belonged to a collector. He quickly cleared the way with the studio and the collector, and the uncut print was in the U.s. in a matter of weeks. The print was all pink and fox began the long task of taking eeach frame of the print and feeding into high resolution computers to preserve and color correct the film. That is still going on and work on the soundtrack is also going on.
The restoration of theis film has beena holy grail for me and I can not wait until a year from now to see it.
very interesting info thanks does that mean do you think that they could restore 'I'm Gonna Wash That Man' I twitted Mitzi Gaynor on the 60th Anniversary of the Film's release this year saying how great it would be to see her singing the full version again and she liked my twitter message so she herself would love to see that again its obvious that it was all filmed as per the soundtrack recording and in fact I have a poster of part of the missing footage of Nellie and all the nurses playing in the pool. For me the song is one of the best in the score and for it to be cut I think was a great mistake making the character of Nellie less than she should be. A lot of people have said to me that it was cut and stayed cut because it showed Emile at one point spying on all the nurses washing which they thought was unacceptable and creepy, I see no reason for thatI was asked by Fox along time ago, to go looking for the missing footage.
There was a large square silver containter - in there was dubbing tests with John Kerr singing for himself. also there was the missing footage of Gonna Wash that Man.
South Pacific was cut just one month into its verysuccesful roadshow run. Why cut a film that's already doing well.
Ego- Rodgers was not there on the shoot. I found a memo from the R and H org but the memo listing suggested cuts is only from Richard Rodgers. We are still missing the Bali Hai reprise on the boat, sung by Joe Cable. This can be heard, only, on an early trailer.