Scott McGillivray
Supporting Actor
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My prediction is that George does not finish the series and the aforementioned Brandon Sanderson has to step in to complete it, just like he did for Robert Jordan.
Spot on analysis of the books. I particularly agree with the criticism of Martin introducing WAY too many characters, and losing focus on the main story and characters. As much as people have criticized the show, it's much better in this regard.I thought the first three books were spectacular. Book 3, in particular, was amazing. Then came book 4. He screwed it up. He had planned a 5-year gap for the characters between books 3 and 4. Then he changed his mind and the book grew to be monstrously huge. So, he split the book into two parts...sort of. Book 4 wound up being only half of the characters' stories. Plus, he introduces a bunch of new characters whose stories really didn't go anywhere. Book 5 comes out YEARS later and covers the other half of the characters for about 2/3 of the book and then progresses all the characters forward a bit. Plus it introduces even MORE characters and just becomes less, I don't know, detailed? Mature? Can't say for certain, but the quality has certainly waned from the first three. I could accept it a bit if they came out every year or something, but taking 7 or 8 years per book...there is no excuse.
Plus, he introduces a bunch of new characters whose stories really didn't go anywhere.
It didn't really click for me until about halfway through the first book. The second and third books are better. I haven't yet started the fourth.I've read a lot of books but I always get stuck about a couple hundred pages into the first game of thrones book.
The story has basically started over - this time with an Ice Queen.
For those who have not read the long Stephen King series (or are currently reading it), I'll spoiler it what I'm about to say. But if they did as you suggest, it would be reminiscent of:My coda:
The camera pans way up North, passed the wall and keeps going until we get to an ice village where many ice people and creatures have gathered.
There is a stone table where everyone has surrounded a lifeless figure.
There is...a dragon off to the side - obviously in mourning.
Then an Ice Prince steps to the figure and touches her face.
Dany's face is shown and her eyes abruptly open revealing the blue tint.
Credits.
The story has basically started over - this time with an Ice Queen.
I can understand this to an extent, and I know the books are so huge that they're rather intimidating (to me, anyway). But I'd think if you enjoy the world-building, characters, and story, that you would want to experience the creator's original vision, rather than simply the variation created by a third party for a different medium.Obviously, there are a lot of GOT fans who never read the books - and I'm one of them. In my case - I never plan on reading them. I myself became a fan of the show only because of the positive "buzz" that I started to hear around mid-2012, well before it got "huge". I intentionally passed on the books because:
1) I didn't/don't want to take the time to read them; I have a huge back-log of things to read as it is.
2) I didn't want any key plot-points on the show to be ruined by the books, since I wanted to be genuinely surprised when watching the show. So, when I saw the "Red Wedding", the scum-bag King Geoffrey's death by poisoning, etc. I was completely floored - which is what I wanted. Though the books may have had some differences vs. the show, I know some things stayed the same (or were at least similar).
3) I didn't/don't want to compare the books to the series, and feel the show should stand on it's own.
I enjoyed the approach of the two hour documentary which was to showcase and follow several of the production crew as if they were miked players in an NFL game. You really get a sense of the fatigue and wear and tear and dedication of these no glory players. And for those who criticized the abbreviated last season (myself included), don't think the producers didn't take the attitude and condition of these unheralded MVP production crew into consideration.
The best part of the documentary was the table read and seeing several of the actors react to their fates (Varys, Dany, etc.) Harrington crying when he reads the part where he kills Dany. And Maisie Williams surprise and exaltation when they read the part where she kills the Night King.