Mark B
Screenwriter
Thank you for posting this excellent and informative video. It was especially nice to hear, however briefly, the modern teal and orange grading fad addressed.Anyone watch this? Interesting and informative.
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Thank you for posting this excellent and informative video. It was especially nice to hear, however briefly, the modern teal and orange grading fad addressed.Anyone watch this? Interesting and informative.
What if anything did you notice was missing from the shorter one?Those who have the older Second Sight DVD with the Theatrical Cut might want to compare it to the cut included here : I thought it was weird that it was so long (120 min) but thought it had been such a long time since it wasn't available that the 115min runtime was inaccurate.
It seems like the DVD was an international cut but the new set offers the Australian TC.
Those who have the older Second Sight DVD with the Theatrical Cut might want to compare it to the cut included here : I thought it was weird that it was so long (120 min) but thought it had been such a long time since it wasn't available that the 115min runtime was inaccurate.
It seems like the DVD was an international cut but the new set offers the Australian TC.
You played that Second Sight DVD and confirmed the running time? Given that a UK DVD would be PAL, it should actually run 4% faster than the correct playback speed. So, the theatrical cut should clock in at about 110 minutes and the director's cut at 102.
Assuming this is the disc you have, the specs on the back of the packaging match up with that.
Where are you getting 119 min from?They're both 25fps (PAL) so they'd be roughly 115 min at 24fps, certainly not 119 min.
Based on what Michael Brooke found in the relevant Monthly Film Bulletin and posted on criterionforum, the version released in UK theaters was 115min.
The presentation of the TC in the Second Sight 2023 set is 120 min 13 but it opens with a 50 sec text panel about the restoration. For the comparison with the older presentation, it makes sense removing this, hence a runtime closer to 119 minutes.Where are you getting 119 min from?
DiabolikDVD[.com] (which is in New Jersey) is where I got mine. Shipping is a flat $5.00. The Limited Edition goes for $75, but that's an even exchange rate for SS's price of £60. The Standard Edition is $35, which is actually a couple of dollars less than the exchange rate from SS's £30.There’s no sign of purchasing options for this through Amazon. So ordering directly from Second Sight is the best site from which to obtain it? They apparently do ship internationally but they don’t post rates in their general shipping information description. I’m thinking tracked shipping would be advisable to allow a trail to follow in case of delivery issues.
The presentation of the TC in the Second Sight 2023 set is 120 min 13 but it opens with a 50 sec text panel about the restoration. For the comparison with the older presentation, it makes sense removing this, hence a runtime closer to 119 minutes.
In the context of the comparison here though, we could say it's 120 min without changing much of our exchange, it just means there are seemingly about 4-5 minutes more than in the previous presentation, in opposition to just a rounding matter or a couple of 30 sec scenes being in or out.
How odd. Does it have any of those scenes described in the old Laserdisc review?
I ordered the Limited Edition directly from Second Sight, and paid £24 for FedEx international shipping (to Wisconsin). No regrets, but $5 is definitely a bit less steep.
The Japanese laserdiscs show a run time of 116m.
JoshZ, I’m an idiot. A bit later in this thread I sent out the exact same link to the Movie Censorship comparison page. Didn’t mean to double up. I need to read more carefully I guess! Be well.I happen to have a copy of Douglas Pratt's "Laser Video Disc Companion" book, which compiles his reviews from the LaserDisc Newsletter.
That IMDb snippet misreads his review. Pratt actually muddies the water on this quite a bit, as he claims he saw a longer version of the film in London and then saw it again later in America cut down to 110 minutes. (This book was published before the 1998 Director's Cut.) In reviewing a Japanese LD, he states (bolding mine): "The Japanese disc runs 115 minutes; the American film version ran 110. We still remember two scenes that were missing from the American version and are missing here."
This would imply that the version he saw in London was even longer than the 115-minute cut. And also that the American theatrical release was cut to 110 minutes before the 1998 Director's Cut.
Of course, it's entirely possible that Pratt was misremembering.
The Movie Censorship site has a good comparison of the theatrical cut and the Director's Cut as they were released on DVD and VHS:
Picnic at Hanging Rock (Comparison: Director's Cut - Theatrical Version) - Movie-Censorship.com
Comparison: Director's Cut - Theatrical Versionwww.movie-censorship.com
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