Ring Pro Doorbell (1 Viewer)

[DaveF]

What we experience:

• A ring from someone pushing the button, we get the chimes within a second and can connect to live video to talk with someone.
• Motion alert, we can’t get live video. We have to wait a few minutes until the video is up on the cloud for access

 

[Sam Posten]

This will not end well.
https://www.androidcentral.com/deal...tw_card&utm_content=77606&utm_campaign=social

Of course I ordered my second one during the Prime sale last week...

 

[Peter Apruzzese]

Assuming the warrantless access part is true, it ensures I never add a Ring device to my house.

EDIT - that article is confusing. It says that police can access "publicly available footage via a special portal without a warrant" - which is fine and I would expect that; not that they can get your own, un-shared footage, without a warrant. The words "request" & "ask" and "warrant" don't go together, so something is off in that report.

 

[Adam Gregorich]

I don’t see the big deal. Police can ask residents for their footage. It’s no different from every other camera/system owner.

 

[Dave Upton]

I don’t see the big deal. Police can ask residents for their footage. It’s no different from every other camera/system owner.

This was a poorly written article before he edited it. There's nothing here other than an ability to see video you have already chosen to MAKE PUBLIC without a warrant. The rest is just a convenience factor IMO.

 

[Sam Posten]

We'll see. The police departments don't need to partner with Ring to make that happen.

 

[DaveF]

It seems weird and inappropriate for a public govt agency (police] to be shilling a company’s product, predicated on secret contractual quid pro quo.

“Amazon Requires Police to Shill Surveillance Cameras in Secret Agreement - VICE”
https://www.vice.com/amp/en_us/arti...hill-surveillance-cameras-in-secret-agreement

Amazon's home security company Ring has enlisted local police departments around the country to advertise its surveillance cameras in exchange for free Ring products and a “portal” that allows police to request footage from these cameras, a secret agreement obtained by Motherboard shows. The agreement also requires police to “keep the terms of this program confidential.”

 

[Adam Gregorich]

It seems weird and inappropriate for a public govt agency (police] to be shilling a company’s product, predicated on secret contractual quid pro quo.

“Amazon Requires Police to Shill Surveillance Cameras in Secret Agreement - VICE”
https://www.vice.com/amp/en_us/arti...hill-surveillance-cameras-in-secret-agreement

I can see people having an issue with the police pushing one product over another, but I think the initial privacy concerns raised by police having access to request footage are over blown. They are able to see videos that people on their own share on the neighbors site, and if there was a crime reported in an area (say car prowl or porch package theft both common in my area) they could see cameras in the area (no addresses) and ask the owners via email if they had any related footage they would be willing to share. Camera owners could always say "no" or "sorry I don't have anything related on my camera".

 

[Sam Posten]

That's what is publicly known Adam. The implication is that due to your TOS agreement Amazon can share your private videos with it's partners, INCLUDING THE POLICE, without a warrant.

Anything further on this subject is going to go to P&R, but if you can't see that that's a problem nothing I say will change your PoV.

 

[Sam Posten]

So I finally got my Spotlight camera connected. The pics it takes of my backyard and deck are awwwesome.

Really great colors and details

As you can see it’s just below and away from my retractable awning. Unfortunately the awning requires 2 plugs going to my waterproof receptacle. Not sure how I can fit a 3rd plug in the box. Will have to talk to Home Depot dudes

 

[Johnny Angell]

So I finally got my Spotlight camera connected. The pics it takes of my backyard and deck are awwwesome.

View attachment 61891

Really great colors and details

As you can see it’s just below and away from my retractable awning. Unfortunately the awning requires 2 plugs going to my waterproof receptacle. Not sure how I can fit a 3rd plug in the box. Will have to talk to Home Depot dudes

Do you mean it actually uses two plugs or it just uses one and blocks another. I hate these engineers who think their product is the only one on the planet.

 

[DaveF]

I’m kinda jelly of your patio furniture. I’ve been wanting for several years to get casual deck furniture but haven’t found what I’m looking for.

 

[Sam Posten]

Do you mean it actually uses two plugs or it just uses one and blocks another. I hate these engineers who think their product is the only one on the planet.

I have a duplex box. I need 3 plugs:
Awning
Awning lights
Ring camera

I’m kinda jelly of your patio furniture. I’ve been wanting for several years to get casual deck furniture but haven’t found what I’m looking for.

All Costco based!

 

[DaveF]

How do you like the electric awning? I’ve considered it lightly.

 

[Sam Posten]

Looooove it. I bought the Sunsetter Via Costco mail order then had a local authorized dealer install it. Best price way to do it!

 

[Sam Posten]

There I fixed it!

 

[DaveF]

 

[Johnny Angell]

View attachment 61945 There I fixed it!

Starting to look like the back of my home theater.

 

[ChristopherG]

https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Doorbell-camera-firm-Ring-has-partnered-with-400-14383981.php

I'm not sure how I feel about this. On the one hand....criminals...on the other, slippery slope......

 

[Sam Posten]

I'm sure you are totally over reacting Sam
https://www.washingtonpost.com/tech...h-police-forces-extending-surveillance-reach/

https://thehill.com/policy/technolo...partners-with-over-400-police-forces-to-share